tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post115950510554414205..comments2024-03-10T11:56:41.189+02:00Comments on The Pagan Files: Hellenic ShamanismAlkmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01240656032916966785noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160506789144145342006-10-10T21:59:00.000+03:002006-10-10T21:59:00.000+03:00"I don't see how separating the Soul from the body..."I don't see how separating the Soul from the body and its journeys are related to astronomy. Should someone be obliged to create a map of the universe after a shamanic experience?"<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm... why not relate it to astronomy? It's as much important as astrology, or let's say spiritual journeys, if you ask me. And above of all, just like mathematics, astronomy was one of many Pythagora's things if I'm not mistaken. Look I have no problem who was first, Aristotles or Pythagoras. It's that there are just a quite some questions I have no answer on yet.<BR/><BR/>Further, I do agree that christian dogmatic attitude has done a lot of damage on common knowledge issue, centuries long- and that's a shame!<BR/><BR/>Why posting as "greek ecards"?<BR/>Would you like me to post as "Sailing in Greece"? ;)<BR/><BR/>a. because it is partly related to this site (both are about beautiful country Greece).<BR/>b. because I run that site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160445097759809452006-10-10T04:51:00.000+03:002006-10-10T04:51:00.000+03:00I insist on Pythagoras being the first that though...I insist on Pythagoras being the first that thought of earth as a sphere. A few try to refute it pointing st his student as the founders of this theory. Nevertheless, much earlier to Aristotle...<BR/><BR/>Copernicus mentions Aristarchus' works (Aristarchus from Samos was the first to propose a heliocentric universe)as his main inspiration for his theories.<BR/>As for why we had to wait all the way up to sixteenth century the answer is simple: Destruction of Greek-Roman world, middle ages, christian dogmas.<BR/><BR/>I don't see how separating the Soul from the body and its journeys are related to astronomy. Should someone be obliged to create a map of the universe after a shamanic experience?<BR/><BR/>Why do you post as "greek ecards"? :)Alkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01240656032916966785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160408066250266152006-10-09T18:34:00.000+03:002006-10-09T18:34:00.000+03:00Which makes me think,..Why if already had made jou...Which makes me think,..<BR/><BR/>Why if already had made journeys into space, would Pythagoras "base his conclusion during a lunar eclipse, on the earth's shadow falling on the moon" ...?<BR/><BR/>I mean, even if he made his journeys much later then he developed his Earth sphere theory, he could always say/write it down, like: Alright folks, it's definitly sphere and IT'S ORBITING THE SUN... because I saw it!<BR/><BR/>I can't imagine he wouldn't want to declare it, as he was very curious man, he was a guru, teacher,.. and god knows what else. As he had obviously his own theories on pretty much everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160328271539880972006-10-08T20:24:00.000+03:002006-10-08T20:24:00.000+03:00Then why did Aristotles: "ALTHOUGH AS LATE AS THE ...Then why did Aristotles: <BR/><BR/>"ALTHOUGH AS LATE AS THE TIME of Christopher Columbus it was common to find people who thought the earth was flat (and you can even find a few such people today), we can trace the roots of modern astronomy back to the ancient Greeks. Around 340 B.C., the Greek philosopher Aristotle wrote a book called On the Heavens. In that book, Aristotle made good arguments for believing that the earth was a sphere rather than flat like a plate..."<BR/><BR/>... get all the glory?<BR/>See the link above for more...<BR/><BR/>Also, why if we know that much of Pythagora's work today, didn't anyone use that part of the knowledge earlier? <BR/><BR/>I mean we had to wait all the way up to sixteenth century, until Copernicus designed his model that we use today...<BR/>It just doesn't fit somewhere. Don't you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160186565889893282006-10-07T05:02:00.000+03:002006-10-07T05:02:00.000+03:00Actually it's Pythagoras that have taken the credi...Actually it's Pythagoras that have taken the credits for being the first to come up with the idea of a spherical earth. He based his conclusion during a lunar eclipse, on the earth's shadow falling on the moon which could only be reproduced only by a sphere.<BR/>Eratosthenes was able to<BR/>estimate the circumference of the Earth a few centuries later.Alkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01240656032916966785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160156718778768262006-10-06T20:45:00.000+03:002006-10-06T20:45:00.000+03:00No, I meant concrete.Perhaps my question would be ...No, I meant concrete.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps my question would be far better if I asked, why didn't ancient Greeks then write down that Earth was sphered, in stead of flat and on the back of giant turtles?<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down<BR/><BR/>Aristotle who came much later then Pythagoras, was the first who ever suggested that Earth might be a ball.<BR/><BR/>http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780553804362&view=excerpt<BR/><BR/><BR/>... and after him, Ptolemy (also a Greek), some 5 centuries later...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160095355336164602006-10-06T03:42:00.000+03:002006-10-06T03:42:00.000+03:00I assume that the absence of mathematical definiti...I assume that the absence of mathematical definition on this matter must be related to the mysticism of the Pythagorean circle.Alkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01240656032916966785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1160078444087053702006-10-05T23:00:00.000+03:002006-10-05T23:00:00.000+03:00Nice info on ancient Greece subject, while I still...Nice info on ancient Greece subject, while I still wonder why (if journeys into space and other dimensions included Pythagoras too) didn't Pythagoras leave some mathematical definitions on that issue, while he gave us so much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32255575.post-1159533975987728012006-09-29T15:46:00.000+03:002006-09-29T15:46:00.000+03:00Ριξε μια ματια εδω:http://www.wbenjamin.org/nc/oct...Ριξε μια ματια εδω:<BR/><BR/>http://www.wbenjamin.org/nc/oct26.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/subject/hd/fak7/hist/o1/logs/sophia/log.started940311/mail-37.htmlAlkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01240656032916966785noreply@blogger.com